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. >> i strongly recommend to romney that he campaign everywhere with george w. bush. if you look at all the data, people still blame by a margin of two to one the economic problems in this country on bush. so i think -- and the other thing, by the way, it would open up for the president is the very clear case that if you didn't like the bush/cheney years, you wouldn't like the romney years because he has the same policies and the same advisers. >> but the difference is that the obama years haven't improved that much now, have they? >> the obama years are pretty -- we didn't go into a great depression -- >> this is what voters are deciding. it was worse under w. but it's not good enough better -- you didn't clean up the bush mess welloff. thank you. that's the argument. you would think the obama campaign would want to start looking forward toward the vp debate this week and the two remaining presidential debates. today the obama camp released this ad going back to romney's line about big bird. this i think is mickey mouse but let's take a look. >> bernie madoff, ken la
. >> i strongly recommend to romney that he campaign everywhere with george w. bush. if you look at all the data, people still blame by a margin of two to one the economic problems in this country on bush. so i think -- and the other thing, by the way, it would open up for the president is the very clear case that if you didn't like the bush/cheney years, you wouldn't like the romney years because he has the same policies and the same advisers. >> but the difference is that the...
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w. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> good evening. we've got exactly four weeks from tonight until election day. when you hear us talk about battleground states, here is what we mean, right now it's ohio. that means everything to these two candidates. and it's news that the romney campaign is suddenly this competitive in ohio. no republican has won the white house without it. president obama carried it last time, and ohio itself has supplied us with eight american presidents over the years. both men running for the job were in ohio today along with nbc's peter alexander traveling with the romney campaign. and starting off our coverage in cuyuga falls, ohio. >> reporter: we're seeing real evidence that this race is tightening, not just nationally but in crucial battlegrounds like ohio. with both candidates descending on the buckeye state, the o in ohio could easily stand for offense. a new poll released late this afternoon showed president obama's once large lead in ohio h
w. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> good evening. we've got exactly four weeks from tonight until election day. when you hear us talk about battleground states, here is what we mean, right now it's ohio. that means everything to these two candidates. and it's news that the romney campaign is suddenly this competitive in ohio. no republican has won the white house without it. president obama carried it last time, and ohio itself has supplied us with eight american...
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solicitor general under president george w. bush. a very skilled courtroom litigator, argued a lot of cases in front of the u.s. supreme court, so a good partner for paul ryan, being able to think on his feet in a moment's notice to challenge the responses. he's also reviewing joe biden's previous debates and speeches. joe biden's been an elected official for 40 years, so he has a lot of experience under his belt and he's memorized some stats and phrases that paul ryan might be able to use. obviously, in a debate like that, 90 minutes long, you want to give as much information in the shortest amount of time as possible and that's what paul ryan is doing. he has a beautiful day to prepare, but we believe he's in the hotel preparing for this debate in 48 hours, thomas. >> we'll be watching. ron mott traveling with congressman ryan. thank you so much, appreciate it. >>> so, what will it take to win the vp debate and the presidential debate one week from now? joining me is political science professor samuel popkin, author of "the candida
solicitor general under president george w. bush. a very skilled courtroom litigator, argued a lot of cases in front of the u.s. supreme court, so a good partner for paul ryan, being able to think on his feet in a moment's notice to challenge the responses. he's also reviewing joe biden's previous debates and speeches. joe biden's been an elected official for 40 years, so he has a lot of experience under his belt and he's memorized some stats and phrases that paul ryan might be able to use....
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w. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bothering to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the emergency room. let's look at some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days since the debate, and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely
w. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bothering to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million...
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and this is no longer george w. bush's fault. here with reaction is paul mugg bestseller, pat gadel. do you know who just lied? author of the study at princeton. >> right. >> and there is -- points out obama took his interpretation of the plan out of context which is -- . >> he lied about what the conclusion was. >> there is i think americans understand telling the truth cut rates across the board by 20% and eliminate deductions and exemptions. and that is where he can keep the rates the same. and i mean, i think the business is how the west reacted to the one issue that is the single most important issue. and there is then tried racism. you're getting the same thing with this. lie, lie, lie. and there is suddenly romney calling obama void. >> let me put it this way. >> they've seemed like they're freaking out. and... desperate. >> they are. let's understand something. there is every day there is unthuj yafl now, lying but you know the point is that let me just say this. this is the biggest debate victory probably since 1980. the
and this is no longer george w. bush's fault. here with reaction is paul mugg bestseller, pat gadel. do you know who just lied? author of the study at princeton. >> right. >> and there is -- points out obama took his interpretation of the plan out of context which is -- . >> he lied about what the conclusion was. >> there is i think americans understand telling the truth cut rates across the board by 20% and eliminate deductions and exemptions. and that is where he can...
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bush. basically the people that write his speeches, are they all george w. bush's people? and it made no sense to me that we had to hear that all over again. >> bill: yeah and george bush took us into two wars in the middle east, and which we have paid everything for, and -- and that's -- that's the bush legacy, and a lot of talk about bringing a democracy to the middle east, and nothing hand. >> caller: correct. and i have a question about the pew poll. it made no sense to me a week ago basically it was five up obama. now it's five up romney? >> bill: i'm going to defer that question -- we're going to talk about the pew poll at the top of the next hour here. let me just say this, do not panic about one poll. lynn calling from topeka indiana? >> caller: topeka indiana. >> bill: i never knew there was a topeka indiana. >> caller: yeah we're not that far from the michigan border. >> bill: and you compete with topeka, kansas for fame; is that it? >> caller: i don't know about that. [ laughter ] >> bill: what is on your mind this morning. >> caller: mr. romney to me is not mr.
bush. basically the people that write his speeches, are they all george w. bush's people? and it made no sense to me that we had to hear that all over again. >> bill: yeah and george bush took us into two wars in the middle east, and which we have paid everything for, and -- and that's -- that's the bush legacy, and a lot of talk about bringing a democracy to the middle east, and nothing hand. >> caller: correct. and i have a question about the pew poll. it made no sense to me a...
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hours later, president george w. bush goes to the microphone. >> let me make this very clear, americans will not be intimidated or influenced by an enemy of our country. >> and bush widens his lead, beating john kerry. chris, this election, the october surprise may not come until november the 2rd. that's the day the final jobs report is released that we're all watching. >> we are, and we're still waiting to see the full impact on the polls from this first jobs report. thank you so much, richard lui. and that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. hello, thomas. >> hi, chris. good morning, everybody. >>> the breaking news from pennsylvania, convicted pedophile, 68-year-old jerry sandusky sentenced to at least 30 years behind bars. details on the emotional victim impact statements and the 18-minute first-person explanation from jerry sandusky himself. >>> then, with just 28 days, that's it, left in the presidential race, it has never been tighter and we've got two
hours later, president george w. bush goes to the microphone. >> let me make this very clear, americans will not be intimidated or influenced by an enemy of our country. >> and bush widens his lead, beating john kerry. chris, this election, the october surprise may not come until november the 2rd. that's the day the final jobs report is released that we're all watching. >> we are, and we're still waiting to see the full impact on the polls from this first jobs report. thank...
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w. bush's fault. after looking at the latest polls it appears the truth is beginning to catch up with barack obama. hear with reaction, the author of the "new york times" latest book "mugged" ann coulter and fox news contributor, the one and only pat caddell. the author of the study at princeton just lied. >> right. >> sean: he points out that obama purposely took his interpretation of romney's economic plan out of context, which was -- that means the president lied. >> the conclusion was, the princeton economist supports what romney says, i'm going to cut, which he said a million times in the debate, and i think americans understand, understand he's telling the truth, no matter how much they talk about lies, cut rates across the board by 20% and eliminate deductions and exemptions, which everybody knows is a scam, and it's mostly taken advantage of by the very wealthy. he can keep the rates for the very rich the same. this lie, lie, lie business, this is exactly how the left reacted to
w. bush's fault. after looking at the latest polls it appears the truth is beginning to catch up with barack obama. hear with reaction, the author of the "new york times" latest book "mugged" ann coulter and fox news contributor, the one and only pat caddell. the author of the study at princeton just lied. >> right. >> sean: he points out that obama purposely took his interpretation of romney's economic plan out of context, which was -- that means the president...
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obama has had to dramatically, as did george w. bush and bill clinton before him. campaigns are about one vision of the world that is critical of their opponent, whether it is the incumbent or the previous president. for example, george w. bush on russia said bill clinton was wrong, he personalize our relationship, invested too much in boris yeltsin, and that is a disaster. i will be a realist, thinking about america's national interest, and what did he do? he got into office, met with vladimir putin, looked into his eyes, and famously saw his soul, so people pivot. events collide. things change. barack obama said he would negotiate with our enemies and our friends, and outlined a new policy of engagement to iran and north korea. those things did not happen. reality did not permit it. the record is running on would have astonished many supporters of barack obama in 2008. host: susan glasser is the editor in chief of "foreign policy magazine." here's a question from tony on twitter. the obama reset with russia, bush looking into platooned's soul neither worked well.
obama has had to dramatically, as did george w. bush and bill clinton before him. campaigns are about one vision of the world that is critical of their opponent, whether it is the incumbent or the previous president. for example, george w. bush on russia said bill clinton was wrong, he personalize our relationship, invested too much in boris yeltsin, and that is a disaster. i will be a realist, thinking about america's national interest, and what did he do? he got into office, met with vladimir...
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he got a ged, got a medical degree, and went on to become surgeon general in george w. bush's administration. here is a part of his story in a campaign ad. let's watch. >> from the jungles of vietnam to life-saving rescues at home, rich carmona has always answered the call. in the senate he'll support our veterans because he's lived it. >> now, richard carmona has put the republican held arizona senate seat in play. democrats dearly want to hold on to the majority in the senate and flipping the seat held by retiring jon kyl would make it even harder for republicans to stop them. it would be a powerful symbol of the shifting politics in western states. >> joining me is now is richard carmona. it's an honor to have you on the show, sir. how do you handle -- how do you unify your state along ethnic lines between what we call anglos and latinos? how do you make the state feel whole? >> well, it's whole and home for me, chris, because i have been here over a quarter century. as you know, working in health care, working along the border, working as a police officer, working a
he got a ged, got a medical degree, and went on to become surgeon general in george w. bush's administration. here is a part of his story in a campaign ad. let's watch. >> from the jungles of vietnam to life-saving rescues at home, rich carmona has always answered the call. in the senate he'll support our veterans because he's lived it. >> now, richard carmona has put the republican held arizona senate seat in play. democrats dearly want to hold on to the majority in the senate and...
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obama has had to dramatically, as did george w. bush and bill clinton before him. campaigns are about one vision of the world that is critical of their opponent, whether it is the incumbent or the previous president. for example, george w. bush on russia said bill clinton was wrong, he personalize our relationship, invested too much in boris yeltsin, and that is a disaster. i will be a realist, thinking about america's national interest, and what did he do? he got into office, met with vladimir putin, looked into his eyes, and famously saw his soul, so people pivot. barack obama said he would negotiate with our enemies and our friends, and outlined a new policy of engagement to iran and north korea. those things did not happen. reality did not permit it. the record is running on would have astonished many supporters of barack obama in 2008. host: susan glasser is the editor in chief of "foreign policy magazine." here's a question from tony on twitter. the obama reset with russia, bush looking into platooned's soul neither worked well. this is a part of the region t
obama has had to dramatically, as did george w. bush and bill clinton before him. campaigns are about one vision of the world that is critical of their opponent, whether it is the incumbent or the previous president. for example, george w. bush on russia said bill clinton was wrong, he personalize our relationship, invested too much in boris yeltsin, and that is a disaster. i will be a realist, thinking about america's national interest, and what did he do? he got into office, met with vladimir...
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and peter feaver served on the national security council staff during the george w. bush administration. he's now a professor of political science and public policy at duke university. we thank you both for being with us. peter feaver, to you first. we heard governor romney today criticize the president broadly for not rejecting strongly enough america's influence in the world. yet when it came to specifics, we didn't hear many details. so let me just ask you about a couple of different places in the world. what about when it comes to iran. wh exactly governor romney be doing differently right now? >> well, this is the criticism that the obama campaign has leveled at the romney campaign for not being detailed and specific enough. when it comes to iran, the president hasn't laid out a red line that he said clearly he would enforce. when asked to be precise about what it means for iran not to possess a nuclear weapon, the articulation of the red line, he's been vague and says he doesn't want to parse it further. i think there's a certain element of ambiguity about wher
and peter feaver served on the national security council staff during the george w. bush administration. he's now a professor of political science and public policy at duke university. we thank you both for being with us. peter feaver, to you first. we heard governor romney today criticize the president broadly for not rejecting strongly enough america's influence in the world. yet when it came to specifics, we didn't hear many details. so let me just ask you about a couple of different places...
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the george w. bush economic policy created this recession. we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when president obama came to office. we have created more than 5 million new private sector jobs. we're moving in the right direction. why in the world would we want to go backward? >> you look at these poll numbers outside of the big one. look at the economy. the question was obama doesn't know how to turn the economy around. this is the pew poll again. 54% now say they agree with that. that's problematic. pew questioned likely female voters. the numbers were heavily in the president's favor, 56% to mitt romney's 38%. now that's tied. that has to be problematic for the president who has been touting his lead with female voters. whether or not you support mitt romney strongly, now 67% up from 56% last month. do you think the invoice presidential debate will turn the tide for the democrats? >> two presidential debates, a lot of campaigning and some events that you and i can't even predict are going to occur in the next four weeks. here is the bottom
the george w. bush economic policy created this recession. we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when president obama came to office. we have created more than 5 million new private sector jobs. we're moving in the right direction. why in the world would we want to go backward? >> you look at these poll numbers outside of the big one. look at the economy. the question was obama doesn't know how to turn the economy around. this is the pew poll again. 54% now say they agree with that. that's...
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and michael grisham who is twice in two cycles helped prepare george w. bush for debate was fairly critical on our program before going in and has a column today saying that the tone and the substance of what he presented was much more acceptable to the mainstream of america. and i think that's why you're seeing a movement in the polls whether the numbers are correct or not. we're seeing a trend. >> you know, richard, it seems, even up until the day before the first debate, mitt romney was still running a primary. >> right. >> -- election campaign. and a lot of people, a lot of republicans wondering as well as democrats, why couldn't he make that shift? richard nixon said it famously, when you're primary, you're under the right, the general, under the center. >> makes no sense. honestly, makes no sense and opens him up to the big vulnerability. he had him at last debate. for instance, one of your favorite subjects on simpson/bowles. he goes out and says, you, mr. president, should've embraced simpson/bowles. and one of the rare moments where the president
and michael grisham who is twice in two cycles helped prepare george w. bush for debate was fairly critical on our program before going in and has a column today saying that the tone and the substance of what he presented was much more acceptable to the mainstream of america. and i think that's why you're seeing a movement in the polls whether the numbers are correct or not. we're seeing a trend. >> you know, richard, it seems, even up until the day before the first debate, mitt romney...
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john mccain motoring with george w. bush at a maine country club in a golf cart. these kinds of pictures i think started from these two people who really understood language and the narrative, you could see these happening all the time throughout the campaign. i think it really helps form, pictures, images for people in their minds. >> being a lover of campaign, how would you differentiate campaign trail from a propaganda machine, just saying what you have to get the guy to win. >> louder, campaign trail from? >> differentiate from campaign trail to the propaganda machine saying what you have to get the candidate to win, campaign trail to the propaganda machine. >> well, i don't, i don't think people, frankly i don't think voters go for propaganda machines. maybe they did at one time, i don't know. you see this, i mean you see this all the time. people want an ought thentic candidate. i think today's candidate, this is i guess i was frustrated about trying to start my own practice, i thought people were just running tactics right? not even a propaganda machine but
john mccain motoring with george w. bush at a maine country club in a golf cart. these kinds of pictures i think started from these two people who really understood language and the narrative, you could see these happening all the time throughout the campaign. i think it really helps form, pictures, images for people in their minds. >> being a lover of campaign, how would you differentiate campaign trail from a propaganda machine, just saying what you have to get the guy to win. >>...
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he firmly believes that it's not his fault at all, and it all should be blamed on george w. bush, and americans got to see a leader who didn't have a plan versus a ceo who had a clear one forward. so i actually agree with chris. jon: chris this question is for you. you say there are more debates, two presidential debates and one vice presidental debate. andrew sullivan, whose down beat column on president obama's prospects triggered us to hold this debate he writes this. a sitting president does in the recover from being obliterated on substance, style and likability in the first debate and get much of a chance to come back. why what do you think about that, chris? >> i'm glad he's not a political operative e. doesn't know what he's talking about. this is a volatile race. if you look at inerms of where the voters are, especially undecideds, no one is locked in. you'll seeee norm news fluctuations in the coming weeks 10, 15%. i think the challenge here, and i think the real emphasis here for the president is to go into that next debate and give a full-throated defense his pre
he firmly believes that it's not his fault at all, and it all should be blamed on george w. bush, and americans got to see a leader who didn't have a plan versus a ceo who had a clear one forward. so i actually agree with chris. jon: chris this question is for you. you say there are more debates, two presidential debates and one vice presidental debate. andrew sullivan, whose down beat column on president obama's prospects triggered us to hold this debate he writes this. a sitting president...
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george w. bush won reelection in 2004 with ohio's electoral votes. president obama carried it with 52% of the vote. what we will look at is hamilton county, carrying hamilton county which is unusual for the democrat to do. it is that key critical county. republicans are confident this year. the romney campaign have determined that the numbers, he is outperforming john mccain by a wide margin. >> only lyndon johnson and george mcgovern who outperformed in ohio compared to where they performed nationally. >> the demographics here, the mix of rural and urban, white, black, male, female. i think that is why it turns out to be such a good bellwether and a barometer of where the country is at. we still have the largest chunk of the electoral votes. >> a quick follow up on that point, pennsylvania, michigan. even if you head south the west virginia, that border of ohio. what makes this so different? it seems to be solid democratic states, west virginia and is likely solid for the republicans. >> we have a mix, parts of the state that are wide like west virg
george w. bush won reelection in 2004 with ohio's electoral votes. president obama carried it with 52% of the vote. what we will look at is hamilton county, carrying hamilton county which is unusual for the democrat to do. it is that key critical county. republicans are confident this year. the romney campaign have determined that the numbers, he is outperforming john mccain by a wide margin. >> only lyndon johnson and george mcgovern who outperformed in ohio compared to where they...
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. >> now we jump all the way october 2000, news broke, george w. bush had been arrested for drunk driving, granted that happened way back in the '70s. how was he able to overcome that story so close to the election? >> well, you know, he can't really overcome it. he just didn't pay a high enough price. everybody will recall, of course, that he actually lost the popular vote in that race, even though he won the electoral vote. where as he was up by about five points before that story broke. i think it is pretty clear that that cost him some votes but didn't cost him quite enough to actually cost him the election. >> so, aaron, what is our october surprise? or have we already seen it? >> i don't know we have yet. some people are talking about the debate as the october surprise. some people are talking about the jobs report. i'm not sure either of those are really a huge game changing event in and of themselves. the beauty of the october surprise is that we don't know what it is before it happens. but a lot of times these things happen, have to do wit
. >> now we jump all the way october 2000, news broke, george w. bush had been arrested for drunk driving, granted that happened way back in the '70s. how was he able to overcome that story so close to the election? >> well, you know, he can't really overcome it. he just didn't pay a high enough price. everybody will recall, of course, that he actually lost the popular vote in that race, even though he won the electoral vote. where as he was up by about five points before that story...